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Old 17-04-2012, 08:13 PM   #1
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How is it that this retard has a status as some kind of genius? Those who have seen The Devil And Daniel Johnston will know exactly what I mean. He can't sing, has terrible timing, his lyrics are those of a 13 year old, at best, and he can't play his instrument properly. I want answers. Evidence:

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Never heard of him, but in that video he has a bit of genuine passion and a bit of a style of his own, which are quite rare these days.

'Genius' if used in its proper sense is a bit much, though.
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Never heard of him but he sounds like me when I'm drunk.
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Who calls him a genius?

I've heard that word used in connection to him once, and it was some prat saying he has 'all the hallmarks of the archetypcal troubled genius', because he's a bit mental and depressed.
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I too had never heard of him, so I'd question who exactly it is lauding him as talented.
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He's evocative. He's a mentalist whose issues bleed into his music. It's all completely genuine and I like that. That's not to say a good portion of his recordings aren't unlistenable to.
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Who calls him a genius?

I've heard that word used in connection to him once, and it was some prat saying he has 'all the hallmarks of the archetypcal troubled genius', because he's a bit mental and depressed.
Watch The Devil And Daniel Johnston. Some people compare him to Dylan, for fucks sake.
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Musician with mental problems, endorsed by Kurt Cobain, overcomes them to release music.

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There really is nothing that suggests any kind of talent in that video.
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Watch The Devil And Daniel Johnston. Some people compare him to Dylan, for fucks sake.
In a documentary specifically about him, presumably conceived and made by people who like him, of course he's going to be looked upon favourably.
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In a documentary specifically about him, presumably conceived and made by people who like him, of course he's going to be looked upon favourably.
First and foremost it is a good documentary and very interesting. But yes it is obviously in his favour.

Try this from The Guardian, who are on my side for once:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musi...aniel-johnston
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I like his art, though

This is him now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxQPeC_yr-M
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This is a great cover by Headless Heroes (Alela Diane on vocals):

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I probably shouldn't have posted that song as it's the only one I don't mind.
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Never heard of him.

He seems shit though.
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He's been compared to Brian Wilson a lot (wrongly, of course). I thought more people would know of him, especially after the documentary (which I thought was popular ).

By the way, nearly all his songs are about a girl he's been obsessed with since he was a teenager.
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Likewise have never heard of him. As Harold's denunciation of him suits the narrative I'd decided to adopt prior to entering the thread, I'm hereby prepared to repeat it to any and everyone as truth.
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By the way, nearly all his songs are about a girl he's been obsessed with since he was a teenager.
Because, as I understand from the few articles I'd read prior to that Guardian one, he's a manic depressive schizophrenic with bi-polar disorder.

He's disabled, basically.
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Because, as I understand from the few articles I'd read prior to that Guardian one, he's a manic depressive schizophrenic with bi-polar disorder.

He's disabled, basically.
Yes but he's written thousands of songs, apparently. Even for a nutter that's pretty obsessive. Still, an interesting story.
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*enters thread*

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He's some kind of idiot savant, but no need to call him a "retard" Harry, especially seeing as he could smear a turn on a wall and that will have contributed more to society and culture than your entire life as a whole.
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I like how he nearly crashed that plane during one of his episodes. He's basically in the same league is this late legend.

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As far as outsider music goes he's okay, I guess. Got nothing on Jandek.

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I've been a fan for a long time, 'Beatles' and 'Fish' are both incredible songs and benefit from his slightly shambolic, simplistic and naÔve stylings.
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