How Many Leagues Can I Run?

[WelshWizard11]

Nobody seems to be replying in this thread but I may aswell ask.

Intel(R) Premium(R) Dual CPU T2330 @ 1.60GHz

2GB RAM

32-bit system

How many leagues would I be able to run on that with a huge database?

Don't mind using the large one either if I am not able to run the desired amount of leagues on the huge database

[Nick]

Originally Posted by WelshWizard11

Nobody seems to be replying in this thread but I may aswell ask.

Intel(R) Premium(R) Dual CPU T2330 @ 1.60GHz

2GB RAM

32-bit system

How many leagues would I be able to run on that with a huge database?

Don't mind using the large one either if I am not able to run the desired amount of leagues on the huge database

Give the lad a chance!

I think Towny's at the Man Utd game.

Just have a little patience [/"Take That" stylie]

[WelshWizard11]

To be fair, I didn't realise that anybody has posted before me today until I made the post

Where is Tokey at these days, I remember him being the computer guru around here

[Nick]

Originally Posted by WelshWizard11

To be fair, I didn't realise that anybody has posted before me today until I made the post

Where is Tokey at these days, I remember him being the computer guru around here

Got a young 'un on the way.

Priorities.

[WelshWizard11]

Originally Posted by Nick

Got a young 'un on the way.

Priorities.

Yeh, hes clearly got them wrong

[Malady]

Originally Posted by Dirty Leeds

You said I'd run 8 countries with my 1gb RAM and vista laptop.

When I upgrade to 2gb. what will I be able to run?

I'd go for about 18 nations with 2GB RAM, DL.

Originally Posted by clinic

OS: XP Service Pack 3
Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 CPU 4400 @ 2.00ghz
2.01ghz, 2.00 GB of Ram
Nvidia Gefore 8800
Direct X is the latest version of 9.0.c

that's all i can think of. anyone have recommendations to how many leagues i should run? FM 08 I could run at a fast pace with the top leagues of the top 5-6 nations of Europe loaded.

This time for 09 I've loaded up 7-8 countries, 5 of them are view onlies, with England, Spain and Italy as playable, with the top divisions and England's lowest to the championship. It's fairly fast. How many should I run to get maximum playable leagues while maintaining a good fast pace?

20 default nations on a large database. Make sure your virtual memory is set correctly to an appropriate level.

Originally Posted by Nick

While I remember:

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5550 @ 1.83ghz 1.83ghz
3gb RAM

on Vista home premium.

Nick, with that system you could probably get about 28-32 default nations running on a large database. I'd set your virtual memory to at least 9,216MB. This will ensure top performance.

Originally Posted by WelshWizard11

Nobody seems to be replying in this thread but I may aswell ask.

Intel(R) Premium(R) Dual CPU T2330 @ 1.60GHz

2GB RAM

32-bit system

How many leagues would I be able to run on that with a huge database?

Don't mind using the large one either if I am not able to run the desired amount of leagues on the huge database

Read moar.

Are you running XP or Vista?

XP = 22-24 default nations on a large database
Vista = 17-19 default nations on a large database

Originally Posted by Nick

Give the lad a chance!

I think Towny's at the Man Utd game.

Yeah! Give me a chance

Correct. Another rather tame performance that we've managed to scrape through.

[Nick]

Originally Posted by thelastnightintown

Nick, with that system you could probably get about 28-32 default nations running on a large database. I'd set your virtual memory to at least 9,216MB. This will ensure top performance.

Cheers Town.

How do I change the virtual memory?

[WelshWizard11]

I'm on Vista.

Nice one

[Malady]

Originally Posted by Nick

Cheers Town.

How do I change the virtual memory?

LC Start
RC Computer
LC Advanced Computer Settings
LC Continue
LC Performance Settings
LC Advanced Tab
LC 'Change...' on virtual memory part.
Change Initial size to 9216 MB
Change Maximum size to 9216 MB
LC Set
LC OK
Reboot machine. Settings will now be applied.

[Nick]

Originally Posted by thelastnightintown

LC Start
RC Computer
LC Advanced Computer Settings
LC Continue
LC Performance Settings
LC Advanced Tab
LC 'Change...' on virtual memory part.
Change Initial size to 9216 MB
Change Maximum size to 9216 MB
LC Set
LC OK
Reboot machine. Settings will now be applied.

Cheers Town.

EDIT:

Any ideas why it'll only let me increase it to 4095 MB and not 9216 MB?

[clinic]

Originally Posted by thelastnightintown

LC Start
RC Computer
LC Advanced Computer Settings
LC Continue
LC Performance Settings
LC Advanced Tab
LC 'Change...' on virtual memory part.
Change Initial size to 9216 MB
Change Maximum size to 9216 MB
LC Set
LC OK
Reboot machine. Settings will now be applied.

I don't really understand this virtual memory stuff but yeah I get the gist. I understood how to set it but how much should I set it to? The Computer recommended about 3070. Any help? Thanks in advance. I really appreciate your help. I never knew of this virtual memory stuff to increase the pace. Should be of great help.

[Malady]

Originally Posted by Nick

Cheers Town.

EDIT:

Any ideas why it'll only let me increase it to 4095 MB and not 9216 MB?

No.

Is that the maximum size?

[Malady]

Originally Posted by clinic

I don't really understand this virtual memory stuff but yeah I get the gist. I understood how to set it but how much should I set it to? The Computer recommended about 3070. Any help? Thanks in advance. I really appreciate your help. I never knew of this virtual memory stuff to increase the pace. Should be of great help.

The recommendation is correct for you. 3072MB.

[Nick]

Originally Posted by thelastnightintown

No.

Is that the maximum size?

Well it says have 98953 MB available but when i try and change it to 9216 MB it says:

enter a maximum page file size that is greater than or equal to the initial page fie size, and less than 4096 MB

[Malady]

Try setting them both to 4096 and then try again.

[Nick]

Originally Posted by thelastnightintown

Try setting them both to 4096 and then try again.

Same message. But 4095 is OK.

I guess that's the maximum then.

[Malady]

Originally Posted by Nick

Same message. But 4095 is OK.

I guess that's the maximum then.

There will be some limit on it somewhere. I can't remember how to sort this, but I think you can. I'll get back to you.

[Sponge]

Processor:
Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
Memory:
4094MB RAM (4GB)
Video Card:
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 512
Operating System:
Windows Vista™ Home Premium 64-Bit

How many leagues/nations shall I go for? (Playable + View Only)

[Gesh]

Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz (2 CPUs)
1534MB Ram
ATI Radeon 2400 Series (256mb ram)
Windows XP

how many can i run??

[Rishy]

Thinking of starting a journeyman game, so it'll be handy if my laptop will be capable of running a few leagues...

(info straight off the back of the box)

2.4GHz intel core 2 duo processor.
2GB (two 1GB SO-DIMMs) of DDR2 SDRAM; supports up to GB.
250GB 5400-rpm hard drive.
intel GMA X3100 graphics processor with 144MB of DDR2 SDRAM shared with main memory.

Its a Macbook by the way, if that makes any difference.

Thanks.

[goriii]

Do changing virtual memory affect any other games (negatively speaking)? Because I do not play only FM, I do play crysis, CS Source, PES09 and other stuff.

Or will it be good to all games?
Thanks.

[chaodck]

I'm planning on starting a new game, it's kind of a journeyman career, I start with my favorite chilean team (Universidad de Chile) and I take them to the top (usually winning a Libertadores at least), and then progress onto whatever it comes. Last time (FM 08) I started at U.de Chile, then after two years I got to Duisburg in Bundesliga 2, promoted them and then got a contract offer from Lazio. I stayed 3 years at Lazio, and then moved on to Arsenal. That's my idea of a game.

I do not want to run all nations, only the ones I have interest in managing, mainly big American Leagues (Brazil, Argerntina, Mexico) and major European Leagues + Chilean League. All with 2 or 3 divisions, so that youth players get to play. I also would like to know how many viewable leagues could I run (besides de playable listed above), so that in latter stages of the career, non EU loans can get european citizenship while playing some matches. The last thing I'd like to know is whether its advisable to play with a Huge DB (I have the file).

My specs are:
- Intel Pentium 4® 3.00 GHz
- 2047 MB (2 GB) DDR2 SDRAM
- 160 GB HDD, with over 50 GB free
- ATI Radeon x1950 Pro® 256MB V-Card
- Windows XP SP2

Thanks in advance!!

[Magpie]

Intel Celeron 540 @ 1.86GHz
RAM: 1GB, up'ing to 2GB in a few days.
80GB HDD (10GB free)
Vista

A free laptop so that's why it's bad specs but it's lasting me until the summer when I replace it. How many leagues can I run?

[AE]

Hey how many nations/leagues can i run?

heres my settings

[Shrewnaldo]

Originally Posted by Magpie

Intel Celeron 540 @ 1.86GHz
RAM: 1GB, up'ing to 2GB in a few days.
80GB HDD (10GB free)
Vista

A free laptop so that's why it's bad specs but it's lasting me until the summer when I replace it. How many leagues can I run?

Yeah its not the greatest but when you get your extra RAM you should be ok to run a few

Its quite similar to my old desktop so I'd say 12-15 leagues in 4/5 countries but I'd limit it to a medium size database as otherwise it could get tedious. With it being a free laptop though are you not going to be struggling with te graphics?

Originally Posted by albsta

Hey how many nations/leagues can i run?

heres my settings

Dual core is a boost, I'd say similar to above but depends on your patience. Maybe trial and error with 18-20 leagues from 5/6 nations with a bit of leeway depending on what size of database you usually like to run.

Of course both of these pieces of advice may be rubbish particularly given that SI are supposed to have helped the speed with the new patch. I'd wait for Tokey to advise before settling into a game.

[Shrewnaldo]

Originally Posted by Sponge

Processor:
Intel Core2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
Memory:
4094MB RAM (4GB)
Video Card:
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 512
Operating System:
Windows Vista™ Home Premium 64-Bit

How many leagues/nations shall I go for? (Playable + View Only)

I'd say with that you can run pretty much whatever the fuck you want!!

Only caveat I'd put on that is any more than 40 leagues / 12 nations and a huge database will slow right down about 6/7 seasons in

Originally Posted by Gesh

Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz (2 CPUs)
1534MB Ram
ATI Radeon 2400 Series (256mb ram)
Windows XP

how many can i run??

RAM might slow you down a bit. Try running 20ish leagues but if you're not planning on moving jobs too much I'd keep a few of the nations as non-playable to make sure it doesn't get too turgid

Originally Posted by pumpum13

Thinking of starting a journeyman game, so it'll be handy if my laptop will be capable of running a few leagues...

(info straight off the back of the box)

2.4GHz intel core 2 duo processor.
2GB (two 1GB SO-DIMMs) of DDR2 SDRAM; supports up to GB.
250GB 5400-rpm hard drive.
intel GMA X3100 graphics processor with 144MB of DDR2 SDRAM shared with main memory.

Its a Macbook by the way, if that makes any difference.

Thanks.

Similar to my laptop. although I don't know if it being a Macbook makes a difference

I'm running 40ish leagues from 15 countries and a large database and its a little slow but not too bad. Depends on your patience but worth it for Journeymaning!!

Originally Posted by chaodck

I'm planning on starting a new game, it's kind of a journeyman career, I start with my favorite chilean team (Universidad de Chile) and I take them to the top (usually winning a Libertadores at least), and then progress onto whatever it comes. Last time (FM 08) I started at U.de Chile, then after two years I got to Duisburg in Bundesliga 2, promoted them and then got a contract offer from Lazio. I stayed 3 years at Lazio, and then moved on to Arsenal. That's my idea of a game.

I do not want to run all nations, only the ones I have interest in managing, mainly big American Leagues (Brazil, Argerntina, Mexico) and major European Leagues + Chilean League. All with 2 or 3 divisions, so that youth players get to play. I also would like to know how many viewable leagues could I run (besides de playable listed above), so that in latter stages of the career, non EU loans can get european citizenship while playing some matches. The last thing I'd like to know is whether its advisable to play with a Huge DB (I have the file).

My specs are:
- Intel Pentium 4® 3.00 GHz
- 2047 MB (2 GB) DDR2 SDRAM
- 160 GB HDD, with over 50 GB free
- ATI Radeon x1950 Pro® 256MB V-Card
- Windows XP SP2

Thanks in advance!!

I'd say you'd be fine to run 12-15 nations with 2-3 leagues in each there but I'd advise against the huge database. I loaded that in my first J'man game and it killed the game about 5/6 seasons in. While its handy for players in your first season, there's still enough options with the large database when you load that many nations/leagues so I'd steer clear if I were you

[AE]

Originally Posted by Shrewnaldo

Dual core is a boost, I'd say similar to above but depends on your patience. Maybe trial and error with 18-20 leagues from 5/6 nations with a bit of leeway depending on what size of database you usually like to run.

Of course both of these pieces of advice may be rubbish particularly given that SI are supposed to have helped the speed with the new patch. I'd wait for Tokey to advise before settling into a game.

Thanks alot mate.
Large database?
or Huge?

[Shrewnaldo]

Originally Posted by albsta

Thanks alot mate.
Large database?
or Huge?

As I've said to the guys above I've found the huge database to be a bit of a drag. If you're planning on loading quite a few leagues as playable, and a few extra as 'Load all players' then I'd stick with the large database.

I got 5/6 seasons in and while it was slow at the start, it really started to drag after that. Particularly during transfer windows! And it doens't bring that much extra to the game, the majority of extra players are absolute gash and once you start climbing the ranks you won't need anything better than large... so I'd recommend going with the large database

[AE]

Thanks mate

[adamlufc]

Hey guys, just got my laptop back and desperate to start a new journeyman game

Intel Core 2 Duo Processor P8400 (2.26 GHz, 1066 MHz FSB, 3 MB Cache) Genuine Windows Vista (R) Home Premium
4 GB Memory
250 GB Hard Drive
nVidia GeForce 9200M Dedicated Graphics

Any help is appreciated, also how do I know what setting to change my virtual memory to???

Cheers

[Pol]

Hi,

I also want to start a journeygame.
I have;
Amd Athlon 64 3500 2,2ghz (single core)
3gig ram
ati X800pro graphicscard
Windows xp pro with servicepack 3.

Thanks in advance!

[Shrewnaldo]

Originally Posted by adamlufc

Hey guys, just got my laptop back and desperate to start a new journeyman game

Intel Core 2 Duo Processor P8400 (2.26 GHz, 1066 MHz FSB, 3 MB Cache) Genuine Windows Vista (R) Home Premium
4 GB Memory
250 GB Hard Drive
nVidia GeForce 9200M Dedicated Graphics

Any help is appreciated, also how do I know what setting to change my virtual memory to???

Cheers

Think you should be free to run pretty much what you want on that, although, as above, steer clear of the huge database.

Trial and error with your patience level but for a Journeyman I'd recommend running top two leagues only in Spain, Italy, France and Germany, maybe 4 in England and a selection of the lower rep leagues to suit yourself. I wouldn't bother running more than 10-12 nations as you probably won't need it and if you set your starting rep to 'Automatic' the AI will guarantee you a job in the lowest rep league you've loaded.

Originally Posted by Pol

Hi,

I also want to start a journeygame.
I have;
Amd Athlon 64 3500 2,2ghz (single core)
3gig ram
ati X800pro graphicscard
Windows xp pro with servicepack 3.

Thanks in advance!

Similar to above but I would cut down the number of leagues due to the single core. Try cutting the big nations down to top leagues only, and only loading one specific low rep country you want to start in.

And I can't recommend highly enough trying to plan a 'career path'. There's no use in loading Iceland and the Premiership only, as an extreme example, as you'll never make the jump from one league to t'other. Being Unique posted a rep list in the J'man thread (page 159) which should help you both get a mix of high, medium and low rep leagues

[Rishy]

Thanks mate

[Pol]

Originally Posted by Shrewnaldo

Think you should be free to run pretty much what you want on that, although, as above, steer clear of the huge database.

Trial and error with your patience level but for a Journeyman I'd recommend running top two leagues only in Spain, Italy, France and Germany, maybe 4 in England and a selection of the lower rep leagues to suit yourself. I wouldn't bother running more than 10-12 nations as you probably won't need it and if you set your starting rep to 'Automatic' the AI will guarantee you a job in the lowest rep league you've loaded.



Similar to above but I would cut down the number of leagues due to the single core. Try cutting the big nations down to top leagues only, and only loading one specific low rep country you want to start in.

And I can't recommend highly enough trying to plan a 'career path'. There's no use in loading Iceland and the Premiership only, as an extreme example, as you'll never make the jump from one league to t'other. Being Unique posted a rep list in the J'man thread (page 159) which should help you both get a mix of high, medium and low rep leagues

Thanks, but a little question:
Is it possible that i don't have the choice to play with a huge database?
I can only choose: small - medium - large

[jamie41586]

Last, absolutely awesome that you do this mate.

I keep starting a JM game but end up restarting because I don't have enough leagues.

Can you reccomend for the below please;

Laptop

Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T5800
(2 GHz, 800 MHz, 2MB Cache)
Windows Vista Home Basic
4 GB RAM
160 GB HDD

Cheers

[Shrewnaldo]

Originally Posted by Pol

Thanks, but a little question:
Is it possible that i don't have the choice to play with a huge database?
I can only choose: small - medium - large

Yes, default is set to Small, Medium and Large only. You have to download a fix file (on the useful threads sticky) for huge, although remember and change the path you put it in to the 9.0.3 data folder

Originally Posted by jamie41586

Last, absolutely awesome that you do this mate.

I keep starting a JM game but end up restarting because I don't have enough leagues.

Can you reccomend for the below please;

Laptop

Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T5800
(2 GHz, 800 MHz, 2MB Cache)
Windows Vista Home Basic
4 GB RAM
160 GB HDD

Cheers

Can't take credit I'm afraid as its usually Tokey and Towny that help out but I'm off work today so thought I'd do my bit. Also my recommendations are mostly based on my personal experience with the computers I've had rather than any actual technical knowledge so I wouldn't take it as gospel!!

In your case though you should be good to run a fair few leagues due to your RAM. I'd pop over to the j'man thread and take a look at Being Unique's rep list on p159 and choose which leagues you'd fancy running in. I also think Forza is putting together a j'man guide which will help you out.

Which leagues you load will depend on how you want you're game to go but I'd say you'd be comfortable running over 40 leagues from 10-12 nations and not worry about speed too much. Vista is a drag though.

Everyone should also pay attention to Tokey's guide on 'How to get the most out of your pc' here: http://www.thedugout.tv/community/sh...ad.php?t=50241

[Iker]

Got a rough idea what I can acheive but need some confrimation

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo T5500 1.66GHz
Memory: 2Gb/Go DDR2 SDRAM
HDD: 160 Gb
Intel GMA 950

Cheers guys

EDIT: Forgot to say I'm using Vista

[jamie41586]

Thanks!!

Might seem a bit strange but it actually seems to be running quicker after loading more leagues :S lol

Might get a proper Journey Man done now, without restarting...

[Malady]

Originally Posted by Staggie4Life

Got a rough idea what I can acheive but need some confrimation

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo T5500 1.66GHz
Memory: 2Gb/Go DDR2 SDRAM
HDD: 160 Gb
Intel GMA 950

Cheers guys

EDIT: Forgot to say I'm using Vista

Pretty much the same as me.

You can get eighteen nations out of it on a large database. For comfortable processing speed I'd go for ten default nations on a large database.

[Gesh]

Originally Posted by Shrewnaldo

RAM might slow you down a bit. Try running 20ish leagues but if you're not planning on moving jobs too much I'd keep a few of the nations as non-playable to make sure it doesn't get too turgid

tyvm!

[Shrewnaldo]

Originally Posted by thelastnightintown

Pretty much the same as me.

You can get eighteen nations out of it on a large database. For comfortable processing speed I'd go for ten default nations on a large database.

Towny, just out of curiosity how long does a week take to process with 18 nations on your unit?

[Iker]

Cheers Towny

That was roughly what I had in mind myself.

[Malady]

Originally Posted by Shrewnaldo

Towny, just out of curiosity how long does a week take to process with 18 nations on your unit?

Long enough to be playable, not that long that I have to throw my laptop at the wall.

Seriously though a week not including any matches will take about fifteen minutes, but we are talking about upper limits of what the machine can handle.

Most people don't get near the figures I suggest because 1) They don't take good enough care of their machine and 2) They don't have the machine set for optimal performance. There are a few other reasons, but these are mainly the two biggest offenders.

[initforthevilla]

Any ideas on how many leagues for a new Macbook pro (15) I know it's a Mac but I did a quick trial match and the 3D was much smoother than on my PC laptop.

Can't believe I've gone over to the dark side....

[Malady]

Need to post the Mac's specs, buddy.

[Tudor]

CPU - Intel Core Duo P7350, 2 GHz
3 GB RAM
Windows Vista

If there's any other info i should provide, tell me how do i get it and where from.

Thanks in advance.

[Shrewnaldo]

Originally Posted by Tudor

CPU - Intel Core Duo P7350, 2 GHz
3 GB RAM
Windows Vista

If there's any other info i should provide, tell me how do i get it and where from.

Thanks in advance.

Handy enough unit so you should be able to run a fair few. Mine is almost identical and I'm running 60ish leagues from 17 countries... but it is getting a bit tedious. Huge database probably has a lot to do with that.

I'd say you'd be very comfortable running 40-50 leagues from 12-15 countries and a large database, but depends on your patience and what sort of game you want to play.

You joining us on the Journeyman thread Tudor?

EDIT - You've more patience than me Towny!!! vvv

[Malady]

Tudor - 25-28 default nations on a large database.

[SKA]

CPU - AMD Turion™ 64 X2 Dual-Core, 2.0 GHz
3 GB RAM
Windows Vista™ Home Premium
NVIDIA© GeForce© 8400M G
Hard Drive Size - 320GB

[kristofer_hæstad]

Intel Celeron Processor 1.7o GHz
Windows Xp
1Gb Ram

How many nations do you recommend and also will i be able to run all the leagues in those nations or just the usual divisions?

takk.