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Old 19-11-2008, 10:23 AM   #1
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Default Lorenzo's 45 Minute Wonder 442 Tactic!!

Well, I spent 45 minutes trying to perfect a tactic, using theorums and frameworks from sigames forums.

UPDATE: FOR VERSION 2.0 OF THIS TACTIC FOR PATCH 9.20 FOLLOW THE LINK BELOW

http://www.thedugout.tv/community/sh...41#post2142341

Important: This is a tactic that is for a team that has good technical players and will get your superstars to play. If you are Hull or a mid-lower division team, using this tactic might not be in your best interests. If you are a team with good players and would usually be on top in a game IRL, this tactic is for you.

|EDIT: Make sure you pick a big pitch when your groundsman asks for pitch alterations. Also, when playing away, take a look at the oppositions pitch, if it is a small pitch (congested), Take the width down to 1 notch below half and put the TEMPO on full!

NEW Tactic TIPS!
If the team you are playing have a pitch width of 68m or below, then bring the width down to 1 notch below half and but 3 more notched on the tempo.

Opposition Instructions: This is what I do, Midfielders to Attackers, including Wingbacks. I do everything to them, weaker foot, harder tackles and closing down always and tight marking. I do this for players on the bench also! For the defenders and goalkeeper, MAKE sure you put closing down as always, depending on who you are playing, you might want to show the right back and left back onto weaker foot, incase you play chelsea and they overlap with a cross ball.
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Second Season Complete
With many thanks to my tactic, I have won everything, except the Charity Shield, LOL

By the way, I cannot stress enough how important a player in the team is that has 20 for free-kicks!

Super Cup
World Club Championship
FA Cup
Carling Cup
Champions League
English Premier League

Below shows the Final standings and Manager overview and team selection. It seems I can pretty much buy anyone I wish, Fabregas would come to me now, Messi even! Steven Gerrard is a no go though, he just hates us too much.







Old1st Season UPDATE: Well, with my 45 minute wonder tactic, throughout the firstseason at Man Utd. I have managed to record a historic treble!

To Summarise my trophys:

Premier League
Champions League
FA Cup
European Super cup
World Club Championship
Charity Shield

This tactic is world-class

Here is my final league position, followed by the overview screen, team selection screen and fixture list.











Now I am going to enjoy my success and try and bring Kaka to Man Utd, he is interested just need to sort out a fee
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Here is what I have come up with, a tactic that closely resembles the playing style at Man Utd, with quite a bit of success.

I have professional manager experience on the new user setup, if that is the reason I am getting good results then so be it but here is the tactic.



Above is the team layout. Try and get the most like for like player for each position.

GK: Strong Goalkeeper always essential.
DL: You need a LB that is very good, can distribute the ball or dribble it. The GK is setup to pass it to the LB to start attacks.
DR: A good RB always essential, if your RB is better than your LB, then set the GK to roll/kick the ball out to him instead.
DC: Decent amount of Acceleration and pace, Marking, Tackling, Heading all important stats, as you would make sure its a decent DC
DC: Same as the previous.

MC(d): This is the guy that lies infront of the back 4, giving your defenders an escape route and the bridge to midfield. Strength, passing, tackling, Marking all needed, I would suggest Lassana Diarra or Angelo Polombo if we are talking about perfect stats for this position.
MC(a): This is the midfielder that creates things, he will make sure he gets forward when youhave the ball, hit long rangers but most importantly, be the heartbeat in every attack. Fabregas is perfect for this, Anderson is good and Beckham is immense, just to give you a bit of relation to the stats needed.
MR: Right winger with a free role, beats players, does his own thing, provides assists, make sure you have a good right winger, speed is essential! Dribbling is also a good stats
ML: same as MR really.

SC(d): This is the striker that has a free-role, needs good stats, he will keep your forward supplied with chances. He is a bridge between midfield to Attack, you need to make sure he has good all round stats. Use Rooney as a template, but Strength is essential here as well as Creativity and Passing.

SC(a): The guy that will score your goals, Acceleration is a good stat but can be done with players that don't have great acceleration (like berbatov). Will get good amount of goals.

If your strikers are having a 5, then don't sub them, give them time. The out and out striker might have a 5 until he scores, but he will get chances. OBviously, your the manager, if you want to sub the Striker for someone on the bench that is like for like then do it.

This tactic won't work if your players don't have faith in you as a manager.






I have lost 3 times with this tactic and drawn twice. All these results were away from home and I had a man sent off -> Injured down to 10 men each time. When it has been 11 v 11, I haven't lost a match.

Update:

I am at Christmas time and here is a look at my fixtures so far and league table.





Also DOWNLOAD -> http://files.filefront.com/Lorenzo+4.../fileinfo.html

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Old 19-11-2008, 06:48 PM   #2
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Dude.... David Beckham back at United? That'll be the day...
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Old 19-11-2008, 07:15 PM   #3
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Dude.... David Beckham back at United? That'll be the day...
Got him for free and he has the perfect stats, as well as being a Man Utd legend.
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Old 19-11-2008, 08:08 PM   #4
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I will try this tatic with my AZ squad, i'll let you know how it goes
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Old 19-11-2008, 08:40 PM   #5
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I will try this tatic with my AZ squad, i'll let you know how it goes
Thanks, I am still going strong with it.
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Old 19-11-2008, 09:09 PM   #6
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Got him for free and he has the perfect stats, as well as being a Man Utd legend.
woah, how did you manage to get him on a free?!
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woah, how did you manage to get him on a free?!
la galaxy release him on a free, I have MLS selected but I dont know if that is the reason they release him.
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Old 20-11-2008, 04:26 PM   #8
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At the moment, I have used this tactic all season. I am at 29th of April 2009, in the final of the Fa Cup, Semi Finals of the European Cup and top of the league. When I finish the season I shall post up my records and stats
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Old 20-11-2008, 07:48 PM   #9
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UPDATE: Well, with my 45 minute wonder tactic, throughout the season at Man Utd. I have managed to record a historic treble!

To Summarise my trophys:

Premier League
Champions League
FA Cup
European Super cup
World Club Championship
Charity Shield

This tactic is world-class

Here is my final league position, followed by the overview screen, team selection screen and fixture list.









Now I am going to enjoy my success and try and bring Kaka to Man Utd, he is interested just need to sort out a fee
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Old 20-11-2008, 07:51 PM   #10
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your name is still at the bottom of the screens mate
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your name is still at the bottom of the screens mate
Ah, bollocks to it. I shall just have to get ready for any murderers. Thanks for letting me know though.
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just about to give this tactic a go for myself as it seems to be very successful for you mesce!!!
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just about to give this tactic a go for myself as it seems to be very successful for you mesce!!!
A guy over at sigames forums has said for him using red star it has worked wonders so far
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have to say so far so good. since using this tactic i have won my first 3 games including the charity shield. so am very pleased. good work mesce!
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Old 21-11-2008, 08:44 AM   #15
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will give it a shot as spurs and report back
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Will also give it a shot.
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Thanks for trying the tactic out guys

A lot more people over at Sicommunity are saying wonderful things about it as well as someone over at Pesfan forums which is my local forum they are loving it as well.

Don't forget, the more players you sign, the more have to blend into the squad. When players are blending in and trying to gel, it is said you won't get the best out of your players until the whole team has gelled. Just a heads up

Also if they lose confidence in your ability to manage. Which can happen if you start on semi professional or Amateur or Sunday league, then it also won't work.
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Really enjoy the flowing real football of your tactic.
Problem is i think the free role striker doesn't work very well, since he seems to get lousy ratings.

I'm trying this tactic on my inter squad. the midfield plays very well, but the free role striker (i've played ibrahimovic, pandev and balotelli) never gets it going.

could it work with the same instructions you use for the attacking striker?
does anyone have any suggestions?

I'm asking only because i don't really know much of how these affect the playing style in fm2009...

thanks man. And keep it up!
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By the way is this formation using the Tactical frameworks and things from WWFan (and Fm-Britain)?

I never got any of their theoretical and "proven" tactics to work, so if you have based it off them you've done for me what they couldn't, produced a consistent tactic.

Basically I won all the friendlies, including a 2-1 victory over Ajax. Nothing too fancy obviously.

Premiership fixtures just started.

Against Blackburn, we stomped ahead 4-0 quite quickly (one missed penalty too) but obviously needs a bit of tightening in the back as we dropped 2 goals 4-2 for full time.

Against Aston Villa - didn't seem to work. Might be the team talk, 2 chances 2 goals though rest of the game didn't even show up in the hightlights, boring to watch I suppose.

So far looks good though(like you, Man Utd is my team), I *might* try it on my Chester game to see how the game handles it at league 2, but we'll see as I'm doing quite well with Chester and don't want to muck things up yet! I'll keep you updated if I do.
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Really enjoy the flowing real football of your tactic.
Problem is i think the free role striker doesn't work very well, since he seems to get lousy ratings.

I'm trying this tactic on my inter squad. the midfield plays very well, but the free role striker (i've played ibrahimovic, pandev and balotelli) never gets it going.

could it work with the same instructions you use for the attacking striker?
does anyone have any suggestions?

I'm asking only because i don't really know much of how these affect the playing style in fm2009...

thanks man. And keep it up!
Ah, thats because you need a striker that is an (FC) rather than a ST. If a forward is an FC it means they can play a free role as well as an out and out striker.

So I would suggest go and get an FC, to work in the free role striker. It won't work withoutm it im afraid

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By the way is this formation using the Tactical frameworks and things from WWFan (and Fm-Britain)?

I never got any of their theoretical and "proven" tactics to work, so if you have based it off them you've done for me what they couldn't, produced a consistent tactic.

Basically I won all the friendlies, including a 2-1 victory over Ajax. Nothing too fancy obviously.

Premiership fixtures just started.

Against Blackburn, we stomped ahead 4-0 quite quickly (one missed penalty too) but obviously needs a bit of tightening in the back as we dropped 2 goals 4-2 for full time.

Against Aston Villa - didn't seem to work. Might be the team talk, 2 chances 2 goals though rest of the game didn't even show up in the hightlights, boring to watch I suppose.

So far looks good though(like you, Man Utd is my team), I *might* try it on my Chester game to see how the game handles it at league 2, but we'll see as I'm doing quite well with Chester and don't want to muck things up yet! I'll keep you updated if I do.
Yeah it was on WWfans frame works and theorums over at sigames. I had a read and tried to get something working. I didnt agree with everything, but most things I did.

Keep me updated how it goes, in my second season I lost the Charity shield but since then I am unbeaten and drawn only once, with 10 men
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