Are youth players too good?

[gersandy]

Im on my 6th season with millwall and have just been promoted to the premiership. I find that around about june every year, 3 or 4 young players come through at minor european clubs that are just too good. These players tend to be ukranian, latvian, romanian, etc. My team is now full of these players with an average age of 21. I haven't paid over £500K for any of them but they are world class from the start. I have a ukranian striker called Michailikov, who i paid £330K for 2 seasons ago, and is now valued at £17M. Obviously this is great for me, as i will probably challenge the top 5 this season (Man City have been premiership champions 3 years running), even though it is slightly unrealistic. Is this happening to anyone else?

[Forza Hellas]

Originally Posted by gersandy

Im on my 6th season with millwall and have just been promoted to the premiership. I find that around about june every year, 3 or 4 young players come through at minor european clubs that are just too good. These players tend to be ukranian, latvian, romanian, etc. My team is now full of these players with an average age of 21. I haven't paid over £500K for any of them but they are world class from the start. I have a ukranian striker called Michailikov, who i paid £330K for 2 seasons ago, and is now valued at £17M. Obviously this is great for me, as i will probably challenge the top 5 this season (Man City have been premiership champions 3 years running), even though it is slightly unrealistic. Is this happening to anyone else?

Which patch are you playing on? With 9.3 the quality of newgens was toned down after being really high on the original game.

[Malady]

They've hit a nice balance this year, I think. Especially after the travesty that was youths in FM08. Rarely got any win there.

[Dantastic]

There are probably too many that have good stats across the board, and some that are killed by their natural fitness stat, but if they got those two issues sorted then it'd be pretty much perfect.

[Dvc]

The newgens on 9.3 seem about right, there are plenty of decent players, finding good players takes a bit more effort and there's usually a few world class players knocking about, if you can get them before a top AI club snaps them up.

One thing I have noticed though, most wingers tend to have a really crap decisions stat.

[gersandy]

Yes its just just the original game, it wasn't a complaint, its good because it gives me a chance to find good players on a low budget.

[Bulfin]

As others have said, pre-9.3 the newgens were very good straight from the word go. Post-9.3 their CA has been toned down a bit so it takes longer to get top class. I'd say they've hit the right spot with regards to their CA/PA now.

[karan316]

I still think the balance is a bit off when it comes to newgens' positions and abilities - you get too many similar ones. Its usually not too hard to find awesome box-to-box midfielders, but finding great young fullbacks of wingbacks can be difficult.

[AE]

Originally Posted by karan316

I still think the balance is a bit off when it comes to newgens' positions and abilities - you get too many similar ones. Its usually not too hard to find awesome box-to-box midfielders, but finding great young fullbacks of wingbacks can be difficult.

I agree with the abilities but not the positions, the fullbacks or wingback's are insane in the game, However I think goalkeepers are a bit off, very hard to replace my 35year old Akinfeev for example.

[diljeet]

9.3 regens are so poor, i am now beating teams 3-0 every week as the other teams have shit regens as i am in 2019.

Ruined my FM career as players the game considered as great wouldn't even get in my squad at the start of the game.

[carboreeta]

I think re/new gens are good on this version just two issues:

1. Physical stats seem to be poor in general compared to technical.

2. AI teams while now buying up the talent are rubbish at bringing them through properly killing off most good players and meaning long term games still tend to be too easy.

[spurs-r-us]

If you find them too easy, then just leave your club! start anew

[WIZWOZ]

I think the balance seems about right on 9.3 patch still a little tweaking needed though as stated there seems to be a massive amount of box-to-box midfielders with crazy all-round ability which in real life are very rare and valuable.

I don't agree about the lack of good fullbacks I think along with strikers they seem very easy to find and with a few games improve massively and very quickly.

I completely agree about the lack of Goalkeepers I think that the very very best keepers in the world are never equalled or bettered by newgens from what I've seen. Akinfeev was irreplaceable for my old Everton save, I noticed that the newgens stats don't seem to improve a lot either even with 7* training.

Still it's a massive improvement over previous years versions and is still really fulfilling to get a home grown lad who turns into a worldclass star.

[AnnoyingDevil]

I think the youth players aren't too bad, though bearing in mind I haven't played FM09 that much, admitedly. Users only seem to get the best regens due to extensive scouting and we know the dates that the regens pop up and search almost instantly looking for that up and coming legend. We will generally find them quite soon, sooner than the AI on many occassions, but I think there are quite a few competent regens that come through poor acadamies and such. They are getting better though, in my opinion, and will no doubt be tuned to perfection in the coming years.

Goalkeeping regens need to be improved on and need to be made more frequent as they can be few and far between oh too many times. I also think they need to make the players more unique and have players of all types being created, which they are to an extent, but just too sparse with many player types taking the majority. I can see why bucketloads of stikers will be produced, due to everyone wanting to be a striker when younger so training up to be one, but every position needs to be filled to have enough quality for a high standard to continue; especially including goalkeepers.

[Big Blue Toaster]

The youth players in 09 are very well balanced in my opinion, especially compared to the regens of 07 and 08. Excellent progress has been made by SI in this area, even though it is pretty much the only area in the entire game major improvements have been made.

That said, I do find it slightly harder to find good regen fullbacks/wingbacks and goalkeepers, while there are too many top-class central midfielders and strikers in the game. While there are some problems with the balance of positions and stats (especially physical) in regens, SI has made great progress over the last couple of years, and now it is possible to create a 100% regen team that is balanced in every position with relative ease.