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Old 11-11-2009, 07:27 PM   #1
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Here's the link for FM Genie Scout for Football Manager 2010: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0ZC9YFJC

For those who don't know what this is, it's a tool widely regarded as a cheat. It can also prove very useful for other things such as creating clubs and even leagues, allowing you to filter out players that the ingame player search might not pick up.

However, it is mostly used to find the current ability and potential ability rating of players. It can also tell you how much you need to bid for a club to accept each player, but that's not always completely accurate. Hence why people shout 'cheat!' whenever it gets mentioned.

I know there are some haters, but others like to use it and might not know the new version is available. Plus some people might not know about it, and it's always worth a try.

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Old 11-11-2009, 07:28 PM   #2
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Never used one, although not because I'm against it, just never been arsed to download it. On average, do the people who have or have not used it find it more fun with or without it's use (no one say no it is cheating, I would like serious reasons not just disproving it with that)

Just a question to decide whether or not to give it a go.
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Honestly, I think it's spoiled the game for me. Now that I have used it and know how it works and what it does, etc. I always feel the need to use it. I know part of the fun for some people is finding talent through scouts and any other means, but I figure if you can just load up this programme and have all the best players at your fingertips - even a number of years into the game - then I might as well just do that.

I must just lack self control!
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I find it best used in moderation, for example when a game seems hopeless by january, find a few young gems, then build them into great players and team leaders and don't use the scout again unless you are totally desperate.

I understand why some people like to find the 20 best potential players in the world and sign them all up but that doesn't make the game fun for me.
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Not my sort of thing. Probably should close thread so no one starts a debate?
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Close the thread? Why? Some people may find this tool useful, just because you don't doesn't mean it should be closed. Like myself, I never used this tool and I'm curious to see what it does. Thanks for the upload.
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Not my sort of thing. Probably should close thread so no one starts a debate?
What's wrong with discussing whether or not people think it's a cheat?

I'd be interested to hear someone who argues against it being cheating, because I don't understand how that could actually happen. Maybe a piss-taker, but not a serious stance.

If that's unwanted then I guess that's fine - like IJ said he will warn people who do what he has strictly stated not to - but please don't close my thread!
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Close the thread? Why? Some people may find this tool useful, just because you don't doesn't mean it should be closed. Like myself, I never used this tool and I'm curious to see what it does. Thanks for the upload.
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What's wrong with discussing whether or not people think it's a cheat?

I'd be interested to hear someone who argues against it being cheating, because I don't understand how that could actually happen. Maybe a piss-taker, but not a serious stance.

If that's unwanted then I guess that's fine - like IJ said he will warn people who do what he has strictly stated not to - but please don't close my thread!
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Because an admin mentioned about NOT discussing it? I was merely just suggesting stopping any discussion before it happens.

Kanij - Just because a thread is closed/locked does not make it so it won't help people, people can still read the thread. Could be a sticky or put in useful threads.
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What is with the weird text.

FMSCOUT.com is a good site for "cheating" downloads like edits etc.

They have most the new shit out 1st like skins etc aswell.
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the only thing i use it for is finding staff, because i find the new system a pain in the ass personally.

but yeah it's not working for me either :\
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Have you people unticked the "compress saved games" box in the preferences.
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same as Aydo here, hate the new system for finding staff so with 09 i started using it to find staff. Especially when you start games as often as i do its a pain to find interested staff, work the numbers, and all that jazz.
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Have you people unticked the "compress saved games" box in the preferences.
This was true for the last couple of versions so it might be why people are getting errors.

I've used it for the last couple of FMs and think it's great. I don't really see it as cheating unless you just search for all the high PA youngsters and bring them to your club but for a well refined search in getting the right players for the right price it's brilliant.

I'll probably give it a whirl on my next save.
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Probably should close thread so no one starts a debate?
There is no problem with this thread. IJ has already made it clear that anyone replying saying simply that it's cheating will recieve an infraction.

That doesnt mean that people can't discuss what they actually use the program for.
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I usually don't even download and install it because, a bit like chelsea_girl, I know that if I use it "just once" then I'll be tempted to do so again.
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Maybe I wasn't clear earlier - but thankfully Forza has cleared it up. Discussion about it is perfectly legitimate, as is mocking Tudor for relying on it. However simply posting "OMG UR A CHEAT0R 4 USING IT" will get an infraction.
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I've used it, in moderation, for the last 2/3 FMs.

I use it predominantly when I've exhausted my funds and maybe need to snatch 2/3 young/utility players on a shoestring budget who aren't going to be complete flops.

When playing LLM, it's also useful for scoping out cheap players with high CA that will do a job for you immediately if only in the short term.

The other main use is to simply fire it up when starting a game and get rid of all the deadwood youth that some teams start with which can be a drain on resources, you can then weed out the youth players who might actually be worth training up.

Yes, it probably does devalue the FM experience as a whole but as has been said a billion times on here before, FM at the end of the day is just a game and everyone is entitled to play it exactly how they want to, on their terms. The only thing that should be cracked down on here is using it to find talent and then posting them to Scout Report because that DOES ruin the game for others.
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The only thing that should be cracked down on here is using it to find talent and then posting them to Scout Report because that DOES ruin the game for others.
Unfortunately this is impossible for us to do. I can guess a fair percentage of the time when I think people are using it and generally I'm right (let's not forget who called Indoctrin out initially). However I can't really stop people posting details in Scout Report on a hunch..
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Thought I'd had a faceplant moment there, but no I had disabled the save game compression. I've even given it a go running it alongside FM, like FMRTE needs to but still to no avail, bah!
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The only thing that should be cracked down on here is using it to find talent and then posting them to Scout Report because that DOES ruin the game for others.
I agree completely with your other points, but I don't see much difference between using a scout utility or signing players based on tips got off the internet.
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That doesnt mean that people can't discuss what they actually use the program for.
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I don't think that this program does anything more than make it quicker and easier to find players, in real time. I always eventually find the youth and starters I'm looking for inside the game, long before the genie scout is released for the annual version. All of the best youth players were remarked upon before even release, from the demo. Along with these forums here providing excellent scout reports, I don't see what the fuss is about.

The genie scout can be more annoying to use, sometimes, than the in-game filters. The only thing I do think stands out about the genie scout are the well articulated scout-style reports, which is more for fun than anything, and is already a feature of the main game. This is just about convenience. No real reason to use this....Unless you're in blue square...

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Maybe I wasn't clear earlier - but thankfully Forza has cleared it up. Discussion about it is perfectly legitimate, as is mocking Tudor for relying on it. However simply posting "OMG UR A CHEAT0R 4 USING IT" will get an infraction.


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I don't think that this program does anything more than make it quicker and easier to find players, in real time. I always eventually find the youth and starters I'm looking for inside the game, long before the genie scout is released for the annual version. All of the best youth players were remarked upon before even release, from the demo. Along with these forums here providing excellent scout reports, I don't see what the fuss is about.

The genie scout can be more annoying to use, sometimes, than the in-game filters. The only thing I do think stands out about the genie scout are the well articulated scout-style reports, which is more for fun than anything, and is already a feature of the main game. This is just about convenience. No real reason to use this....Unless you're in blue square...

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I don't think that this program does anything more than make it quicker and easier to find players, in real time. I always eventually find the youth and starters I'm looking for inside the game, long before the genie scout is released for the annual version. All of the best youth players were remarked upon before even release, from the demo.
1. I think its the ease and speed that is the problem. If you're managing a small team you'll rarely be allowed to scout outside your region meaning players that are from nations which aren't in your clubs knowledge won't show up in the player search. Usually it would take several seasons to build an extensive scout network but FMGenie gives you that in several seconds.

2. A lot of the best youth players were earmarked on here based on the demo, yes. However the minute you finish your first full season you start getting regens - which is where FMScout is generally used the most.
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I didn't even realize this was out yet. It's great news for LLM that Genie Scout is finally out. Not to mention lately searching for good staff is becoming a chore. Thanks to the OP for the link!
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What's the point in taking on the challenging of LLM but then ruining it by cheating with Genie Scout? Makes no sense at all.
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What's the point in taking on the challenging of LLM but then ruining it by cheating with Genie Scout? Makes no sense at all.
Is'nt that the exact opposite of what Forza said this thread was about? It's up to him how he plays his game, and although we both share our own personal thoughts on this, its no debate.
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It eases the pain of finding good staff as opposed to the trial and error-method of staff search and a coach calculator and like everyone else i'm a weak weak soul with complete lack of selfcontrol, i just wouldn't be able to stop once i got my hands on it...
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Is'nt that the exact opposite of what Forza said this thread was about? It's up to him how he plays his game, and although we both share our own personal thoughts on this, its no debate.
Meh. I think it warrants debate because of how much of this site is about people telling us how well they've done, or posting records of their achievement. I think it can make some people feel like they're shit at the game as well when people post about how they've taken Kettering to Champions League glory in seven years or whatever, neglecting to mention the fact that they've hoovered up all the best young players found via genie scout.

Anyway I've had my warning so I'll shut up now.
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Meh. I think it warrants debate because of how much of this site is about people telling us how well they've done, or posting records of their achievement. I think it can make some people feel like they're shit at the game as well when people post about how they've taken Kettering to Champions League glory in seven years or whatever, neglecting to mention the fact that they've hoovered up all the best young players found via genie scout.

Anyway I've had my warning so I'll shut up now.
No, I agree. It's all about feedback and how to improve teams, tactics and everything.

Although I don't really condone the use of this tool, I understand that it doesn't mean everyone will stop using it - it wouldn't be made otherwise. I love reading about success stories, pretty much everything about FM - but I feel a little bit of honesty should be involved with it. If you use FM Scout, or any editing tool, I think people should be honest, there is no shame in it, as it is your game - just don't boast about winning so and so when you have cheated to make it much easier for you to do so.

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I started using it in 08, then in 09 I only used it after 9.3 to find coaches (and have used this one to do the same). My scouting networks in previous games and in 09 brought me more developable talent that Scout did in 08, a lot of them never seemed to progress that well even taking into account the slow speed that regens did that time around.
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What's the point in taking on the challenging of LLM but then ruining it by cheating with Genie Scout? Makes no sense at all.
Woah... wouldn't want to get off to a rough start so let me better explain myself:

- I never used the Genie Scout to find youngsters. I have used it to see the potential ability of my established first team players... but that's about it.
- I never use it for a large team or when playing LLM in leagues that allow you to be promoted to league standards of 18-20 (Italy, Spain, England).
- I use it mostly to expand my scouting knowledge with good clubs that have no scouts as the AI always knows where to find players and signs them before I can expand my scouting knowledge enough.
- I seldom use it to find out prices as they are always wrong.

Not trying to excuse myself here but I don't think that using solely the Genie Scout anyone could ever win anything. I admit that, especially when I'm having difficulty finding a good player for a specific position in the first transfer window I might use the genie, but I don't ever recollect using it to discover good players after my first season. By that time I'd have already amassed enough scouting knowledge to allow me to just use my internal scouts.
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ive used it a few times, in previous versions, i must admitt. however, ive grown out of it, as im now a Fully Fledged LLM, and journeyman. it would take off some of the shine of finding a beauty player, i dont have Gripes with people who use it, so longs they admitt it and dont try and pass off all the wonderkid finds as their own! Thats my two cents on it.
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How do you extract the thing from WinRAR? I see the folders and shit there but don't know to do anything else. I've never used this before and I wanna see how it works.
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Close WinRAR. Right click on the file and select "extract here". Then you should open the folder and open fmgenie or whatever the program is called.
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Ive tried getting this to work but every time I try and load it a message comes up saying about club data being corrupt, Ive unticked the "compress saved games" box, any ideas?
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did you resave after you unticked it?
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Yes, still didnt work.
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The problem, which has also been pointed out by others, is that weak souls - as my self - will be tempted to use it over again, so that you wont end up with overpriced talents that doesn't develop their stats as you would have liked to - at least that was my main purpose with the proramme. I've used in both 08 and 09 versions, and I ended up with a feeling that I wasn't doing the job myself, and really being the communicative tool between two programmes, so I've sworn to myself never to DL again.

But it might be reccomendable for people who are just starting, and would like know what to look for in players as well as coaches, how to scout, etc. Then again, it might ruin the experience for others, like I felt it did to me.

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This does not work on windows 7.
any idea why and if there is 1 that does work with windows 7?
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PA and CA were made hidden for a reason, you know... Oh well, to each his own.
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This does not work on windows 7.
any idea why and if there is 1 that does work with windows 7?

works fine for me on w7
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works fine for me on w7
I open it up, try to load it but once it gets to 'loading people' it just freezes.
its really winding me up.
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If you really want to use a 'cheating' program and genie doesn't work,

http://miniscouteditor.blogspot.com/
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I open it up, try to load it but once it gets to 'loading people' it just freezes.
its really winding me up.
Go in to preferences and un-tick compress save games and confirm. Save the game and re-load the scout.
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