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Old 20-01-2011, 11:42 AM   #1
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Default 4-2-2-2 "Il Devasto"

4-2-2-2 "il Devasto" (I apologize in advance for my bad english)

This is the tactic (i'm sorry, but i' forgot to uncheck the option "target man"...then, neither of two forward is "target man"):

IMPORTANT: Read all the post and if you do everything i say in this post, this tactic will work great

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/4...enshot359s.jpg

The particularity of this tactic is that, while playing with two large wings, passing are set in the center to take advantage of their movements and the movements of the two forward...the amplitude is seen, not as a way to open the game from one level to another by sending a cross to the exterior, but is seen as a means to send to the center, as many players as possible to avoid him "beat feet".

Now i show you the line up in attack and the line up on defense (action-type goals and how to defend the team):
A) Attack (red: forward; blue: wings; purple: midfielders; yellow: backs)
http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/9...eenshot349.jpg
As you can see the ball carrier(Carrick) has a lot of offensive solutions, and there, in this picture taken from the game against Barça (willfully to show the impact even against strong defenses) can count 5 different solutions: the two full backs, the 'other median, the two wings and rooney, in this case was the player served a chance to find himself infallible!
B) Defense(Here I show you a series of 4 screens taken from the same action to show the effectiveness of the module. Red circle in the opponent and the ball carrier, the red line, of course, is a sign of its passage):
1: Mascherano sets the action, no one contrast (this is the peculiarity of being a defensive tactic) but not has important solutions because the spaces are all closed, and then discharged to the outside
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6792/24141094.jpg
2-3: The player who receives the outside, having no space in front of you, download centrally Iniesta ... even here it goes, and Iniesta decides to return to Mascherano:
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/5531/71660070.jpg

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3504/93553800.jpg
4: Mascherano decided to return to Iniesta, continues to have no clear solutions, but at this point, Carrick, takes it in advance, retrieves the ball and get it on rooney
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7263/28245977.jpg

After showing a little something to tell you a little step ', role by role, what kind of players are used to this tactic:
GK: the best could find.
FB: since it must cover the entire external zone: a) physical qualities, especially speed, b) quality techniques such as cross, marking, steps b) mental qualities like without the ball, position, team play.
CB: best you could buy
MC: I used the median with good feet and / or central midfielders achieving excellent results. Career test to man utd I used Fletcher and Carrick (I will show you the statistics)
WGS: shift the balance are crucial. They must be fast, must be able to cross and dribble, must be able to play as a team. Do not need finalizing. Must be of the wings as well, not adapted attackers, the game would be affected to the extent that they no longer play for the team but would seek a personal solution
FR:will be your finalizer, then used the usual values and attributes tokeep under control . I invite you to consider, however, particularly the physical values.
FS:will be a bit 'finalizer, a little' finisher, so do not count as the finalization (15 already is fine) but what will count a lot: A) technical quality: passes, first game B) mental qualities: teamwork Without the ball, intuition and even a bit of imagination.

That said, I give you some 'helpful advice:
-Pitch dimension: MAX
-Any O.I.
-If you use this tactic in halfway, before it can give the desired results, it takes a minimum of 3 games, to a maximum of 6
-If you use this tactic since the beginning of the season, it would be preferable, the friendly pre-season, you play by turning your team over every single game (45 min and 45 min)
-pre-match training by the assistant manager


Now a bit 'of statistics, just to make you realize the immense potential of this tactic:
Goal scored (team)
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/5...eenshot360.jpg
Assist (team)
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/816/assist.jpg
Premier League Final Standings:
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/1348/classificak.jpg
Premier Leagues players final statistics:
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/344...stichecamp.jpg

http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/8...campionato.jpg



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REMEMBER this: not change the tactics in any aspect, it is a 4-4-2, and can not be trasformed into other tactics...if u make this, and the result will not arrive, not give her the blame!!!

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Old 21-01-2011, 01:05 AM   #2
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Well your English isn't too bad. But why does everyone run back except the strikers?
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Well your English isn't too bad. But why does everyone run back except the strikers?
to tighten departments
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Old 22-01-2011, 02:58 PM   #4
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Thanks for this amazing tactic,i'm playing with AS Roma and it's working very well.
I only have one doubt, i have to uncheck the "target man" in the tactical defenitions?...
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Thanks for this amazing tactic,i'm playing with AS Roma and it's working very well.
I only have one doubt, i have to uncheck the "target man" in the tactical defenitions?...
yes mate
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Old 23-01-2011, 08:38 AM   #6
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Well your English isn't too bad. But why does everyone run back except the strikers?
I think since FM08 or 09 that just means they don't make forward runs.
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Old 27-01-2011, 12:23 AM   #7
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A bit surprised by the relative indifference this stuff created. This is by far the best tactic i used in FM, even more impressive than the famous 4-3-3 (neverlosen) in previous version.

I twicked it in two aspects before my second season:

1) I put the right striker (fastest one) as target man, supplied into spaces. I alternate Rivière and Gameiro in this role for my Saint-Etienne save, and they're just fantastic... I can't imagine how the likes of Vagner Love/Torres could perform in this scheme. HUGE amount of CC chance per match.

2) On corners, i told my DCL (best header) to "attack to far post", and my corner taker to cross to far post indeed. Verkhovstsov is a terror (and so Vidic I suppose. lol.)

My results since I twicked the tactic (which worked well yet before):


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I concede too much because my full backs aren't top class...

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Old 27-01-2011, 01:14 AM   #8
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Hi.

Just thought I'd tell you - not sure if it's just me - but a lot of the screenshots don't seem to be working. Only screenshots 4 & 6 are working for me, aswell as the Goals Scored and Assist screenshots.

Just wanted to ask a couple of questions if that's okay.

Firstly, so the MC's need to be 'ball-carrier' type midfielders? So stat wise, I'd be looking at things like Passing, First Touch, Composure, Teamwork, Decisions etc, yes?

Secondly, could you explain a little bit more about the strikers? Am I right in assuming that the right-sided striker is the finisher, and the left-sided needs to be a more creative player?

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EDIT: All the team instructions are set to default aswell. I assume they aren't supposed to be?

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Trying this one with Liverpool. Notched all straight wins. Including a 10-0 against one of those 'never-heard-of'teams from idon'tknowwhere and a 6-1 against newcastle. Big difference between home and away results. But it sure looks promising.

Like the lad above, what i need to look for in the 2 midfielders? They are kinda key figures and i'm still experimenting with them...
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Firstly, so the MC's need to be 'ball-carrier' type midfielders? So stat wise, I'd be looking at things like Passing, First Touch, Composure, Teamwork, Decisions etc, yes?
I used this strategy heavily in previous FM version where it worked brilliantly (not that much in '11 but still very usable). So to answer your question, yes, definitely, the 2 MC's are the most important players , so good mentals + technique + passing and good stamina as they get tired very fast because most balls go through them. I usually played one as advanced playmaker and another one as supporting (or ball-winning) midfielder.
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Best tactic ive used so far on this version. Tons of goals and ive only just lost my first game in about 25 (most of them wins) after taking over at Atletico Madrid. Didnt buy any players, just used what they had at the time.

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Trying this one with Liverpool. Notched all straight wins. Including a 10-0 against one of those 'never-heard-of'teams from idon'tknowwhere and a 6-1 against newcastle. Big difference between home and away results. But it sure looks promising.

Like the lad above, what i need to look for in the 2 midfielders? They are kinda key figures and i'm still experimenting with them...

I personnaly use two hardworking midfielders (Mariga-Nkoulou or Matuidi-Fofana).

When I put Adrien on the pitch, he always seems to have poor or average ratings (6,70 in 15 games) despite his briliant creative skills. Not strong enough... and can't tackle.
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Breaking all kinds of records with this.. top goalscorer, goals scored in a season.

Can certainly highly recommend giving this one a try, especially if you like your tactics to have wingers!
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I definitely not understand why nobody talk about this one...

Amazing tactic, great results with my Man U side or FC Nantes side.
A lot of goals, chances, ...

Every one has to try it !
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I just want to add how great this tactic is.

Spurs - won all three cups (League cup, FA Cup and CL) and came 3rd in the league (1point from first place).

Bought in a RB - De Silvestri, a CB - Zapata and a striker Derdiyok and bought Hazard in January.

Truely awesome tactic - should be up there with the best
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AWESOME ! Seems to be like the new DIABLO tactic !!!
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Old 07-02-2011, 09:53 AM   #17
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I seem to have encountered a problem, every time i set the tactic, my FM just hangs there. Anyone know why and how to fix this?
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I did give this tactic a whirl with a new Man U save. Initial thoughts were that it was a gret start, well as a rule the pre season friendlies usually go with without a hitch. Come the start of the season it was Chelski in Charity Shield, I was slightly nervous as they had nearly all the posession and chances in the first half. Second half we came out all guns blazing, final score Chelsea 0 Man U 5. 1st league game of the season was Man City away, I thought this would be a tight affair but once again away win and this time 7 - 0. I believed this was the tactic for me as I am a plug n play FM user. My next two games were both at home against Newcastle and Aston Villa, this I thought would give me the perfect season start after the initial success. Lo and behold my two home games I lost 2 - 0 and 2 - 1. I could not figure out what had gone wrong, no major changes to squad and roughly 12 games to get the tactic to gel. Is it the squad or is it just the curse of FM. Any suggestions would be welcome. Cheers, this tactic does have potential and it's nice to see wingers being utilised again.
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Yeah, doesnt work brilliantly for my Sevilla team either. Dont get me wrong, Im not doing bad but hardly walking on everyone put in front of me.
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I don't normally download peoples tactics (except Pink Panther Redux) and am pretty good at making my own solid but fluid tactics but thought I'd try this one, and.....Wow!! What an amazing tactic. Have just smashed Fulham 7-0 at Craven Cottage and Adebayor scored six. That's 16 goals in 9 games. Only conceded 2 league goals and scored 33.

Results so far....
Arsenal H 4-0
Wigan A 2-0
Blackburn H 5-0
Wolves A 5-2
Liverpool H 2-0
Blackpool A 2-0
Sunderland H 2-0
Aston Villa A 4-0
Fulham A 7-0

Alright fair do's I am Man City. But this is just fantastic. Sorry about typing the results, I haven't got a clue how to upload screenshots.
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I want to know what Im doing wrong? I've unticked the target man option and my team arent exactly shoddy themselves..
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I picked this up from the SI forum sometime ago and made the following changes.

Untick target man
Tick counter attack.
Lower the mentality 3 notches back.
If I am player bigger clubs I put mentality on defensive.
Lower the mentality of all the defenders - CB on normal and DL & DR on last attacking notch.
Lower the mentality of the MC's to normal.
Lower the closing down for all defenders.
I also changed the corner routine.

Results have been amazing and I have used it with a variety of teams.
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I picked this up from the SI forum sometime ago and made the following changes.

Untick target man
Tick counter attack.
Lower the mentality 3 notches back.
If I am player bigger clubs I put mentality on defensive.
Lower the mentality of all the defenders - CB on normal and DL & DR on last attacking notch.
Lower the mentality of the MC's to normal.
Lower the closing down for all defenders.
I also changed the corner routine.

Results have been amazing and I have used it with a variety of teams.
could you upload your tweaked version???
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I'm having problems trying to use this tactic, i keep getting the crash dumps every time i try to set the tactics.
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Here it is. I do slightly change it depending who I am playing and at what level the club I am at.
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I have just played half a season with West Ham and have won my last 10 league games.

Had an ok'ish start, then it kicked in and we look almost unbeatable.

Amazing

If i "had" to give a downside, it would be that it concedes a few more goals than i'd like, but hey ho, you cannot have everything.

Will update at end of season.
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Here it is. I do slightly change it depending who I am playing and at what level the club I am at.

thanks mate
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Let me know how it goes
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I finsihed 3rd with West Ham 1st season(only 3 points behind winners) and won the FA Cup, scored a 100 goals and conceded 48.

Just 12 games into season 2 and i've scored 41 goals but already conceded 28

If there was a way to shore up the defence without losing too much in attack, this would be the best tactic ever created for FM.

Funny how 80% of the goals we concede are just basic Sunday league unforced errors?
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I finsihed 3rd with West Ham 1st season(only 3 points behind winners) and won the FA Cup, scored a 100 goals and conceded 48.

Just 12 games into season 2 and i've scored 41 goals but already conceded 28

If there was a way to shore up the defence without losing too much in attack, this would be the best tactic ever created for FM.

Funny how 80% of the goals we concede are just basic Sunday league unforced errors?
Use some of the pointers I listed. CLosing down is a major issue because players get out of position.
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I gave it up, may sound mad, as i was second in the league at xmas in season 2, but its just too frustrating watching the games and every goal i concede being a defensive/goalkeeper error, or an opposing forward run half the pitch with the midfield and defence just opening up in front of him.

The only time my keeper comes to the edge of the box is to make a mistake and my defence dont react until the ball is in the back of the net.

It makes the match engine look ten times as bad as it already is and that was pretty bad anyway.

Great going forward, but even then its frustrating to watch your star striker missing the target in the middle of an open goal a yard from the goal line.

The match is the most important part of FM, yet the ME is the worst part of the game by a country mile.
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Here it is. I do slightly change it depending who I am playing and at what level the club I am at.
what your results like with this
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what your results like with this
See the Antwerp succession game. Excellent results with man it'd and playing very well with my Nantes ydwawk game. I can post results tomorrow if needed
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i tried this out and had to set the keeper on the default template , otherwise he tended to do far too much crazy shit . other than that well done man this tactic is competely bonkers and i love watching it
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A bit surprised by the relative indifference this stuff created. This is by far the best tactic i used in FM, even more impressive than the famous 4-3-3 (neverlosen) in previous version.

I twicked it in two aspects before my second season:

1) I put the right striker (fastest one) as target man, supplied into spaces. I alternate Rivière and Gameiro in this role for my Saint-Etienne save, and they're just fantastic... I can't imagine how the likes of Vagner Love/Torres could perform in this scheme. HUGE amount of CC chance per match.

2) On corners, i told my DCL (best header) to "attack to far post", and my corner taker to cross to far post indeed. Verkhovstsov is a terror (and so Vidic I suppose. lol.)

My results since I twicked the tactic (which worked well yet before):


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I concede too much because my full backs aren't top class...
1) I put the right striker (fastest one) as target man, supplied into spaces. I alternate Rivière and Gameiro in this role for my Saint-Etienne save, and they're just fantastic... I can't imagine how the likes of Vagner Love/Torres could perform in this scheme. HUGE amount of CC chance per match.

i am confuse put the right striker as target man which mean in player instruction set to target man? or under target man drag into the box? btw you got unclick the team instruction target man?
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How do i download the tactic instead of opening up in another program?
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am i an idiot? I don't concede that much...
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In good co-operation with Daanyal84 from the Managers United Forum and his permission from Satorax we’re delighted to present to you the 'Upgrated Modern Style' version of 4-2-2-2 'il Devasto', all put together in 1 Tactic-pack.



This pack is the result of a attemt to convert the original 4-2-2-2 ‘il Devasto’ (which was a classic tactic) back to modern. This because some forummers didn’t like playing with the classical version despite having some really good results with it.



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=further explanation; why and how did this tactic developed?] After we started converting the tactic to modern, we found some weaknesses in the original version. Therefor we composed a testing panel in order to develop the tactic, which finally resulted in this tactic-pack. We started on working on the defence of the original tactic, in order to reduce receiving goals. The testing panel also noticed that the original tactic (which was tested by simulation) didn’t work at his best on a European level because opponents seemed to punish off your defensive weaknesses.



In competition the modern converted tactic functioned really well; some games were won with 7-0 or even more. When you’re one of the favourites winning the league this tactic really is delightfull to play with. The only games you’ll find having any difficulties with is playing against higher reputationed clubs, or teams that enjoy a good day playing against you; Do you like to play this way? Then use the 4-2-2-2 'il Devasto' Offensive Modern.



To exclude those difficulties playing against higher reputationed clubs or teams that enjoy a good day playing against you, we’ve created an extra tactic which you can succesfully use against those clubs and also on European level. The tactic include a less offensive concept of play in combination with a more solid style of play. Some results maybe less spectaculair then playing the ‘Offensive’ version but that will be compensated with the results you’ll get against some of your stronger opponents in national or European competitions. Besides that, these tactic offers you the possibility to play with a more direct style off passing-game instead off only the short-passing way. The directer style of play offers you a way to reach the opposition’s goal faster, however this is a more riskier option because you’ll lose the ball faster. So you really need to think this trough, before making this desicion. Do you like to play this way? Then use the 4-2-2-2 'il Devasto' Standard Modern.



At last we needed to make a version of this tactic which would do well with lower reputated clubs, who would like to do well despite having fewer good players. This because the original tactic is to offensive to play with having such a team. The defensive version of this tactic will give you some good results playing with such teams. This tactic also is a perfect one to play with when you have to play against the highest reputationed clubs. By example: You’re playing teams as Nottingham Forrest in a match against Manchester United on Old Trafford. Does this apply to you? Then use the 4-2-2-2 'il Devasto' Defensive Modern.



Best results are made combining these tactics! Look into your reputation aswell your oppositions reputation before considering which tactic you’ll use. With teams like FC Barcelona you can play the ‘Offensive’ version 90% of the time. Only exceptions might be fixtures against Real Madrid (home/away) and in some European matches. Then you’ll need the ‘Standard’ version. It’s not likely you’ll need the 'Defensive' version very often with teams of this caliber.




In the next spoiler you’ll find some beautifull screens of the tactical performances of this tactic-pack;



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=technical performances]Now i show you the line up in attack and the line up on defense (action-type goals and how to defend the team):



A) Attack (red: forward; blue: wings; purple: midfielders; yellow: backs)





As you can see the ball carrier(Carrick) has a lot of offensive solutions, and there, in this picture taken from the game against Barça (willfully to show the impact even against strong defenses) can count 5 different solutions: the two full backs, the 'other median, the two wings and rooney, in this case was the player served a chance to find himself infallible!



B) Defense(Here I show you a series of 4 screens taken from the same action to show the effectiveness of the module. Red circle in the opponent and the ball carrier, the red line, of course, is a sign of its passage):



1: Mascherano sets the action, no one contrast (this is the peculiarity of being a defensive tactic) but not has important solutions because the spaces are all closed, and then discharged to the outside







2-3: The player who receives the outside, having no space in front of you, download centrally Iniesta ... even here it goes, and Iniesta decides to return to Mascherano:











4: Mascherano decided to return to Iniesta, continues to have no clear solutions, but at this point, Carrick, takes it in advance, retrieves the ball and get it on rooney









Some tactical explanation:



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=changing some of the players roles]This tactic-pack developed in such a way that you can switch some of the players roles without changing the way this tactic works. The positions we’re talking about is de position of right central midfielder, left central midfielder and deep lying forward. Only change the players role, don’t change anything in the advanced players instructions!



The right central midfielder is the least offensive midfielder. This is by default a central midfielder, support. You can change this for example in a defensive playmaker if your player have the qualities to do this. Keep in mind that this player is responsible for supporting your defence, therefor he’ll need som reasonable defensive stats.



The left central midfielder is the most offensice midfielder. This is by default a central midfielder, automatic. This position can also be adjusted. However you need to keep the balance of your team in mindt!



The deep lying forward (left striker) can be adjusted into a finisher, if you dont have a deep lying forward. However, this tactic will be most effective playing a deep lying forward in combination with the targetman.



IMPORTANT: do not tick the option ‘Play Targetman’ in your team-instructions! This will make your team depending on this man. However you do need to choose how you want to play your targetman. (run to ball, play into feet, etc)!!!



If the tactic doesn’t work the way you want to after making changes descriped in this spoiler, our panel recommends to go back to one of the original ones.(h)




Some tactical instructions:



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=which players to use]To make the best use of this tactic-pack we recommend the following:



GK: The best you can find. Choose players with the designation GK



Backs Choose players who also have offensive qualities. Dont use coverted central defenders if you don’t need to. Choose players with the designation right/left defender or right/left wingbacks.



CD’s: The best you can find. These 2 will form your defensive block. Choose players with the designation. CD



RCM: Place the central midfielder which has the best defensive qualities, because this player will support your central defenders. Choose players with the designation DM or MC. Players with a better designation as DM you’ll need to train into CM.



LCM: Place the midfielder which has the best offensive qualities, because this player will support your attackers slightly more than your RCM. Choose players with the designation MC of AMC. Players with a better designation as AMC you’ll need to train into CM.



Wingers: Place your players who will do best at the positions behind your strikers. It’s important that these players know how to play the midfield, rather than playing a strikers role. So don’t choose players with a designation as AMR/S or AML/S! Those are to focust at scoring goals, forgetting their defensive tasks. It’s possible, but it will not get the best out of these tactics.



SCR: This is your targetman.Choose the player with the best statistics for this positions as indicated in your tactic screen by this players instructions. Don’t forget to tick your instructions how to play this targetman (run into ball, pass to feet, etc) in your teamtactic-screen. However; DO NOT tick the ‘Play Targetman’ button in this screen.



SCL: Already discribed. Best is a deep lying forward.


Best results are made combining these tactics! Look into your reputation aswell your oppositions reputation before considering which tactic you’ll use. With teams like FC Barcelona you can play the ‘Offensive’ version 90% of the time. Only exceptions might be fixtures against Real Madrid (home/away) and in some European matches. Then you’ll need the ‘Standard’ version. It’s not likely you’ll need the 'Defensive' version very often with teams of this caliber.







Credits for this tactic-pack goes to:

Satorax; original maker of the tactic

Daanyal84; for disclosing this tactic on the MU forum



The panel of testers:

The forum-members Chanty, Joostmakaay, Emmen-fan, Daanyal84, Vriel14 and myself



At last i, RobinvPersie of the MU Forum (Dutch), converter and tactical engineer ( ) of this tactic-pack, want to wish all of you al lot of fun using them!



Spoiler:
All tactics whoom i’ve been testing are tested in a game where i played with FC Barcelona, season 2013-2014. I simulated a complete season, after which i studied the results it made.



This was the FC Barcelona selection during the testing:



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In the spoiler below you’ll find the results of Version 1; the classic version converted into the modern one:



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4-2-2-2 'il Devasto' origineel]



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Spoiler below shows you the results of the tactic after the first improvements i’ve made. This emerged in the 'Offensive' version. Unfortunately a little down in the end kept my assistants team from winning the CL;



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4-2-2-2 'il Devasto' Offensive]



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Spoiler below shows you the results of the 'Standard' version. This version has a more solid foundation;



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4-2-2-2 'il Devasto' Standard]



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The 'Defensive' version is yet to be tested, but will be a succes. Youve got to believe me on this. The reason of not testing this is because i think i don’t have the right team for it. My FC Barcelona is very good, and i dont have the qualities to leen back with it. If you want me to test it anyways with this team, please send me a PM, and ik will start doing it.



IMPORTANT: ALL RESULTS FROM TESTING ARE SIMULATED AND THEREFOR PLAYED BY MY ASSISTENT!!!

In my opinion this makes the tactic more reliable on itself. It creates a more honest picture of the tactic then playing it yourself.

But if you have better manager-skills then your assistent, there’s a big chance dan doing even better then the testing results!
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Old 13-02-2011, 04:42 PM   #40
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Crag - can you please sort out all the spoilers that have gone wrong when you've copied and pasted this from wherever it was originally posted.

[spoiler=yadayada] doesn't work on this forum. You'll need to take the titles outside the coding brackets.

Also, can you please upload the tactic(s) as an attachment to the post rather than external links.

Was this translated from another language using Google translator? Some of the sentences are quite disjointed.
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ok sorry. yes im a dutch student living england, but my english is not as good as my dutch
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Also having problems with the pictures.
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Old 14-02-2011, 03:39 AM   #43
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I tried this out just to see how it would work (backed up my save) and after three games I won 8-1, 3-0, 4-0. I went to save it and it crashed, then it wouldn't let me load the game.

First time that I've ever had a FM game not load. Luckily I have my back up but wondering if anyone else experienced this?
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1. I put the right striker (fastest one) as target man, supplied into spaces.

i no understand, what it mean supplied into spaces????? anyone help please?
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Hi...

I've tried this tactic with my Celtic team for whole season. I didnt make any tweaks at all, and it worked great for me (but i did not install latest patch).
This is my Celtic team...as you can see there are some great players but no superstars (AML is empty but Forrest played there whole season):
http://img832.imageshack.us/i/celticceltictactics.png/

My results (games i've lost were played with second team):
http://img522.imageshack.us/i/celticcelticfixtures.png/

Alberto Paloschi was really beast upfront:
http://img402.imageshack.us/i/albert...iprofilea.png/

And Leigh Griffiths was not behind him at all (even after this stats he gets three stars from my scout team):
http://img412.imageshack.us/i/leighg...profileat.png/

Thanks for this great tactic...
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This is a good attacking tactic but I've found it pretty useless on the whole, especially with a team who aren't going to dominate the ball for 90 minutes. Concede far too many pathetic goals, the back 4 part like the red sea when someone runs at them.

Fun tactic but no good for me.
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been using this tactic for the first three games since i started managing Jaro..bottom of the finish premier division after half a season.

I have played 3 games and won all 3 with the tweeked 4-2-2-2 il devasto tactic. we have small squad and i have been unable to buy any players not all fit the positions.

so far i must say this tactic is excellent we sometimes let in late goals as my team is very unfit and 3 substitutions is not enough.

so far so good.
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Dominated with Ipswich in my 1st season in Championship...only lost 1 game in the leauge all season.

First 3 games of the season in the EPL and i've been ripped apart:

vs Sunderland (H) lost 2-3
vs Bolton (A) lost 0-3
vs Barnsely (H) lost 2-3

Not helped by the fact that I've lost 5 decent players to long term injuries. 've got no money and just go in 4 loanees. Im pretty screwed LOL

As cryptoparrot said my defence is parting like the red sea. They dont go into the on coming defender and just sit back and let them run at them!?
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Dominated with Ipswich in my 1st season in Championship...only lost 1 game in the leauge all season.

First 3 games of the season in the EPL and i've been ripped apart:

vs Sunderland (H) lost 2-3
vs Bolton (A) lost 0-3
vs Barnsely (H) lost 2-3

Not helped by the fact that I've lost 5 decent players to long term injuries. 've got no money and just go in 4 loanees. Im pretty screwed LOL

As cryptoparrot said my defence is parting like the red sea. They dont go into the on coming defender and just sit back and let them run at them!?
Which version are you using?
Try changing the closing down setting on your defenders. Might want to alter the defensive line also
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Playing this with Newcastle 1st season. Results have been good, but inconsisent.
After 14 games:

10th in the table, scored 39, conceded 41. This is obviously a problem, were conceding way to much when our defence is more than strong enough to keep out the goals were letting in.

However, my loanee Jo has 19 goals in 14 EPL games.
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